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Cat Weight Problems...?

Cat Weight Problems...?

Postby Drayce » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:43 am

My family adopted a 5 year old male orange tabby from the local humane society about a year ago.
When we adopted him he was "big boned" but still at a healthy weight.
He had been found outside abandoned and had probably lost some weight.
Over the past year he has gained a lot of weight for his little frame (like 8-9 pounds).


What we have tried to do to help him lose weight...

1) Bought diet cat food

2) Let him outside but he ran away

3) Tried to walk him but he refused

4) I try to play with him as much as possible

but none of this seems to help.

It probably also doesn't help that members of my family will feed him just to shut him up.

Does anyone have any other ideas? Or any specific food or toys?

Thanks...
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Postby Remi » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:46 am

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Postby Melburn » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:49 am

Ask your vet how much food he should be getting and only give him that much. Never feed him soft food because it just fattens. Cat nip is a healthy way to get your cat to excersise, they will play and roll for hours. Also if you have like tape measures or string run around the house if he will chase them. The stairs are also good call him up and down stairs to play, because he burns off a lot of weight. Never try to walk your cat. take it in the backyard with a harness, it will stare at the bunnys and birds and eventually eat the grass and walk around. Also theres a thing called a catwalk, you place it outside and its like a giant net sort of thing your cat can walk around in but cant get out, its very nice, my cat loves it. Shes also heathly obease. These may sound silly but there fun.
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Postby Biast » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:56 am

Declare yourself the universal cat feeder.
No one else gets to feed the cat.
They can, however, carry 5-6 pieces of dry cat food in their pocket, and if the cat meows, give the cat a couple of pieces of food.

My cat gets his exercise by visiting my neighbor's yard--she has a birdbath.
LOL.

TX Mom
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Postby Makolm » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:59 am

The proper amount to feed per cat/per day should be about 5.5 ounces of wet (high quality grain free canned or Raw Meat/Bones/Organ) food.


The calories in that amount of food are sufficient for most "normal" sized cats. Of course a highly energetic cat will need more food to keep it healthy, and a lazy cat will need less food to keep it from getting obese. But 5.5 ounces of wet food per day is a good place to start.

Here is a fantastic site that will help you help your cat lose weight! http://www.catinfo.org/feline_obesity.ht...
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Postby Hotah » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:01 am

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Postby Bennet » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:06 am

You're overfeeding him, and I'm guessing that you are feeding him food that is high in carbohydrates. I would switch him to low carb food and stop feeding him so much. Measure his food and give him maybe about 20 calories per pound of his *ideal* bodyweight per day.
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Postby MacAlister » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:07 am

1) "Diet cat food" - what kind of food? Dry food? And is it dry grocery store food - meaning, loaded with carbohydrates because it's made mostly of corn? Don't believe the labels on cheap foods that state they're "diet".
You need to feed a high protein MEAT based food to your cat and NOT a dry food only diet.
Interestingly enough, you don't see "diet" on the labels of quality foods because they don't contain all the fillers that leads to obesity.

2) I'm hoping you're now keeping him INSIDE where it's safe.
He won't lose weight outside but he could easily lose his life http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?ac...

3) cats aren't like dogs - most don't like leashes and even if it did I would not advise taking your cat for a walk.
What if you encounter someone with an aggressive dog? Your cat wouldn't stand a chance.

4) what toys have you tried? Toys that you wave and he chases are best.
There's one called "Da Bird" that most cats love and lots of feather/tinsel wand toys at most toy stores.

You shouldn't be free feeding him - he's an adult cat and only needs to eat a controlled amount twice a day.
Here's some really good info about the right way to help your cat lose weight - http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?ac...

Why cats need canned food - http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?ac...

PS: GOOD FOR YOU for recognizing that being overweight isn't good for him.
A lot of people think fat cats are "cute" but obesity leads to many, many health issues so the sooner you get him toned back down, the better.
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Postby Gifuhard » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:11 am

Toss your dry food and set up a feeding schedule.
Warn family of grievous bodily harm that will ensue if anyone slips him any treats or feeds him outside of those times.

I'm going to paste in my full blog entry.
It goes into detail on how cats get fat and how to get them to lose.

WEIGHT LOSS FOR CATS

Why do cats get fat? It can be a combination of issues, or just one. First the obvious - overfeeding. This may happen either because you're giving in to the begging or because you're free-feeding (keeping food available all day) and your cat is not self-regulated. The second reason is feeding inappropriate, low-quality food (most dry foods). The third would be medical reasons I'm not qualified to discuss, but they're rare. Most cats are fat simply because they're fed the wrong food and are fed too much.

Is it bad for cats to be overweight? Of course! It's very bad. It often leads to diabetes, not to mention that fat cats probably don't feel very cat-like. Who would when dragging around extra pounds?

Why is dry food bad? With very few exceptions, dry food is not appropriate food for cats. It's chock full of carbs/sugar, doesn't provide enough meat-based protein, and is often loaded with grains such as wheat or corn (which provide those carbs/sugars). Wheat, corn and soy are known allergens and in many cats will cause digestive upsets. Not to mention most also contain "meal" and "byproducts." Cats are obligate carnivores who need to eat a diet high in protein (from meat) and fat and very low in carbs. The mouse is the perfect cat food - meat, organs and bones, with perhaps a tiny bit of grains that may exist in the mouse's stomach. In addition, dry food leaves cats dehydrated. They do not instinctively drink enough water because they're designed to get it IN their food. This results in concentrated urine which can lead to all sorts of problems. And it DOES NOT CLEAN THE TEETH! Really - think about - does dry food clean OUR teeth? If it did wouldn't dentists prescribe cookies instead of brushing?

What should cats eat? Cats should eat a species appropriate diet which very much resembles Atkins (Catkins). A raw diet is the very best, so long as it's properly supplemented to meet a cat's nutritional needs. There are many raw feeding forums available through Yahoo Groups that one can join to learn more. The next best choice is a good quality canned food (or even a commercially prepared raw diet such as Nature's Variety). These foods will have meat listed as the first ingredient, will not contain corn, wheat or soy, may include organ meats, and will not list "meal" or "byproducts." See the What to feed link for suggestions. Additionally, the brand By Nature Organics is a very good food, and at 150 calories per 6oz can, is a very good choice for weight loss.

What about supplements for weight loss? The addition of L-Carnitine to a cat's diet may assist with weight loss. 250-500 mg per day can be added to assist with weight loss. It is probably best to start with a lower dosage until you see how your cat reacts.

How soon will I see results? Cats need to lose weight slowly, at the rate of no more than 1 pound per month, and often less. This is because rapid weight loss may cause hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver) which can be fatal.

In a nutshell, most cats are fat because they've been fed too much (free-feeding or indulging them) and because they're fed dry food which is NOT appropriate food for them due to the grain/carb/sugar content. Cats are obligate carnivores who need to eat a high meat-based protein diet, which is also high in fats and low in carbs.

Many vets, who are sadly ignorant on the topic of proper cat nutrition, will recommend prescription diet foods (usually dry). Cats are expected to lose weight on a starvation diet of 1/4 or 1/3 cup of food per day. Everyone is miserable in these situations.

The solution is to switch the fat cat (and any others in the household as well) to a good quality canned food. Because these foods are species appropriate, the cat will lose weight at a safe, slow pace (no more than 1 pound per month). Switching foods needs to occur slowly, and if you're trying to get a kibble junkie to eat canned food, that will happen naturally.


How much should cats eat?

This varies. Average cats may eat between 20-30 calories per pound per day. But note that that is IDEAL pounds. Using 25 calories per day for example, an 8 pound cat could eat 200 calories per day. By the same token, a cat who weighs 20 pounds but should weigh 10 could eat 250 calories per day. You multiply the ideal weight by the calories to arrive at that figure. When working toward weight loss, it's perhaps best to start at the lower end of the scale (20).

How do I find out how many calories are in cat food? See the link "Values in canned food." If it's not listed there, you'd need to contact the manufacturer.....I believe that link provides some help there as well.

That's it. Easy as pie. Not only will fat cats lose weight, but it and any others in the home will reap many benefits of eating a speciies appropriate diet.


See the links below for detailed information on this topic.

UPDATE: Poppy lost 5 pounds and Sophie lost 2 following this plan (from October to October). Each cat gets one can (5.5oz) of Nature's Variety Instincts per day. No one is starving or miserable. My vet is happy with her progress and so am I. Only 4 pounds to go!
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Postby Lyall » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:20 am

Try to make sure that the food you are feeding your cat is a meat only food. Wet food is better for all cats and especially overweight cats. Some websites that offer good nutritional advice for feeding cats are: http://www.catnutrition.org http://www.catinfo.org http://www.all-about-cats.com

There is also an excellent book available called Your Cat by Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkins.
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